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@untruthful – It has been our experience that publicizing the names of vpn services can result in them suffering from connection problems. If you want a dependable one then you are either going to have to pay for it or you are going to be lucky and have found one that has a low user traffic that half a billion other users haven’t found yet. However, if you browse the internet with a ISP from then you are almost certainly going to be spammed by one company who I believe claim that they are 100% reliable in China or never been disconnected or some such brag. I am not recommending them but if their claims are true then it would seem like a good place to try albeit that I wouldn’t recommend paying a year in advance as they appear to be inviting trouble.
The less expensive way is to buy a VPS which you can still ping and access from China. Install shadowsocks and use port 80, after the block of ports last month or the month before, it is a way you can use your VPS. For business and trading concern, the party will not block 80 port so soon, even the 443 port of my VPS is blocked weeks ago. If you have a VPS, one day when shadowsocks protocol is blocked, you can still install other tool, not like a VPN, if it is blocked, it is totally down. Now VPS is the way to access bandwidth consuming app. And VPN is a safe insurance if one day all ports on VPS is blocked.
Hi everyone, I just get back Chengdu. I realized that a lot of VPN services are closed down. Such as Shadowsocks, which I used before. Anyone knows a VPN that is still good to use right now? I am kind of desperate to know the answer. Thanks a lot.
Shadowsocks is fine, at least for custom server.
try using a general service port if you can still get ping reply
Some English tips, :)”an extraordinary one”, not “a”
People been polite with you up til now mate, but when your own posts are full of grammatical/spelling errors and your response to someone sharing ‘hopeful sentiments’ is …. that, expect some “fuck off” replies, or at least sneers that aren’t typed out for not wanting to waste the time.Two years have passed, Rick. It was not easy.
But literally I kept my promise. I didn’t work for Americans anymore.
This is not easy for me. I am from a labor worker family. I studied hard as one of the topiest students ( if you don’t think I am bragging) to get a university degree ( didn’t contiunue because I and my family can’t afford.), and worked in foreign companies mostly US companies for years at last got this in return. Maybe you think it is ridiculous for a Chinese citizen to seek justice and fair in US companies. But at a country which doesn’t care its own people, that is one desperate hope.
Don’t know if you can understand.
At least I am trying to get fair and justice, not like those who play nasty.
You kown what, every US company I went through all have heavy office politics. Only one european company is better.
As to say the “correct your English” post, you know, I can’t explain everything to a person who have no experience, he is just not in the situation. And many Chinese are rude to use “correct your English” to humiliate you. I just use one of their ways.
I don’t expect you can understand !!!
As a ungraduated chinese student, my personal view about this is never try to change the system except you are a extraodinary one. But i think the person like you are enough to get a much more better job. I can’t have the same feeling like you about this without 12 year working expericense , but i definitely feel your pathetic feeling. Sorry for what you faced. Brother, move forward and be happy ~ everything will be better ~
Some English tips, :)”an extraordinary one”, not “a”
Update.
I think silence can only make the Chinese political trash thinks nasty maneuvers can be successful in this world, they can eat others always.
I decided to do something for my lost 12 years’ trust. I sent a well worded email to the highest level of that company. Yes, J Tucci, J burton, Krakauer. I told them what happened, expressed if possible, I will not work for Americans anymore, attached with evidences.
I told them I didn’t expect them to reply to me. I know in America, they have a saying, “Don’t open that can of bug.” So always it is the Chinese low level to pay for every country’s ugliness. That needs to be stopped. So I open that can of bug for them and throw it at their face. Told them I left, so I don’t care if you don’t change anything. After all, it is you to pay with your money. If you like, just keep it this way.
If those Chinese political trash only believes power and maneuvers
Charlie,
I worked for that company too, that company is a joint-venture of China and Belgium Bell at the beginning since 1984. It is a totally corrupted one. The story is too long to tell, let’s focus the topic on US one.
I don’t think using this political trash will help the US company in projects,
they can’t get any good from it besides the Indian lady felt good.
Hi Guys,
You are misleading. I didn’t want to talk about law (US law) or US people’s ethics.
Charlie, I know you are citizen of US and Germany.
goatboy, you must be a US citizen.
I am talking about their wisdom and their view of history.
1. I don’t expect how good the US is, I just want to warn them for making their own society like China. Do you want to live in an environment where only the worst political trash can survive like in my case?
2. I made comments about US’s technology/creativity combined with China’s maneuvers to manipulating people. These two will create a worst world.
3. Also the current condition of China is a result of 2200 years of reverse election.
4. Without the help of the western countries, the Chinese rulers can’t totally control the villages. The administrative division below town can’t be controlled totally.
5. Charlie, we are just engineers. Things like bribery, corruption is confidential for us too. But if I knew that and whistle-blew, the links below tell how high the risk is:
http://www.letscorp.net/archives/85805
http://www.letscorp.net/archives/83424
6. And the most sad thing I found is I compare the Chinese brain-washing with US propagandized values, I found they are the same thing except for the US one is more successful.
Thanks for the reply. I could ramble on about corporations but I’ll just say to chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on. You’ve gained a lot of experience from the job, it wasn’t a total loss as you say. Very few large (US) corporations treat their employees like they’re anything more than a number on their balance sheet. Especially so for a publicly traded company; you hear stories about how awesome FB and Google are to work for, but those are in the minority. Like I said earlier, it’s a very political (some call it high-schoolish) environment and it sounds like you decided to go against the grain as they say. If you’re not drinking the company kool-aid and are butting heads with people in power, you’re going to have problems no matter where they’re located.
Thanks for the reply.
I have some unsaying meanings in above rambling.
China is like this because of 2200 years reverse election, it is not like the Chinese people’s gene has a problem. The social election system is wrong since Qin Dynasty. When you fight (or work) with nasty people, your moral bottom line is dropping too because if you kept your high moral bottom line, like me, you loose for certain even if you have luck, if you want to win, you have to be more nasty. That’s how the world becomes worse. If you study the history, for lowly working people, although the technology advances, it brings more and more fake comfort, but the freedom and room living for the lowly working people is worse and worse. 70 years ago, if you don’t want to cooperate with the nasty political trashes, saving some money, purchase a land at a “not so nasty” place and live on it. But now, if you don’t want to suck ass, the possibility for you to survive is little. The controlling of system to every corner of society is much tighter thanks to the advance of western technologies. So is it evolution and advance?
I know you must think I am mad. You know I have been betrayed for 12 years, you must understand me.
If the Americans didn’t use themselves as a bait to advertise for them, I may not so easily believe in their so called policy, and loose. The Chinese guy is just a person who calculates others, we have too many this kind of people here, can’t cheat me.
Ahh, corporate politics. I’m curious to know where your idea of American corporate justice comes from OP. You say you’ve never lived abroad so I’m just wondering about the frame of reference. You seem pretty bitter about things so I’ll just offer my my perspective as a decade-long office jockey: If you choose to ‘hide’ in the same position for 12 years, odds are you’re eventually going to butt heads with someone, be it a colleague or manager. It sounds like it might be a good time to explore other opportunities within the company, and if that fails maybe look for another place to work if you think the new boss is going to be around for a while. Blaming America for your problems here is a little misguided.
Hi WoodWERD,
Let me put it this way, so it may help you understand.
1. As I was born here, so I know how the society is in China.
If I don’t believe in, it means other can’t cheat me so easily because I have defense.
2. But as I didn’t know US as much as China, and I was willing to live in a more fair/ more humanlized environment. So I choose some western companies. The basis for me is only the media (Internet, movie, TV) we could see.
As I believe in they are people with more fairness, I would like to contribute for this fairness myself which included when something happens to me, I follow the policy. When the nasty Chinese leader who was promoted by this Indian Lady tried his political maneuver on me, I didn’t do things out of line but to escalate following the company policy which was to escalate to his manager, the Indian Lady.
I didn’t use the same nasty Chinese way to get back to him.
3. But the Indian lady didn’t show me any fairness, only use Chinese HR to threaten me.
And fire me at last.
What I asked from her was not to remove this nasty Chinese guy out of his office, but to stop doing things like that, I can pretend nothing happened here. I don’t think I requested too high to her.
But in this case, not a little bit of the US propagated fair and justice takes effect, just as nasty as the Chinese. I wasted my career, my trust, and my dignity.
I want to write a 打油诗(poem) to relieve myself:
“<span style=”color: #000000; font-family: 微软雅黑; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; widows: auto;”>一十二年一梦觉，同是虎狼同堕落”</span>
In the Chinese language media (Internet, TV, newspaper), all impressions about this country India is that – oh, raping, gender discrimination, women suffer a lot, we should save them.
But after 12 years experience in IT companies with Indians, the conclusion is totally different. Indian women are more selfish, injustice compared to Indian men.
My previous manager before transferred to this rubbish Chinese was an Indian guy. Although not totally honest to me, but a decent guy who has a sense of fair and equality.
I believe my evidence is sufficient.
What evidence? This has been a vague rant.
emails and 1×1 recordings which proves that a chinese guy who was promoted as leader is an office political trash.
1×1 is your manager and you talk in a dark little room where no one else is hearing. So he can try funny things on you and after that denies everything.
I record them.
In fact, if US never invest in China since 1970s, maybe we don’t have a lot of money. but for the bottom, maybe life is easier. Now powerful ones are more and more arrogant.
Update. Our company is a very famous US IT company. Now they fire people back in US but didn’t touch here. It seems that they plan to give up and turn in their source code and help to install the back door already. If they just fire us and left. It would make me respect them, but now never.
I sent you a PM. You should contact me, I think I can help you. justcharlie at gmail
Hi Charlie,
Thanks.
My economic situation is good. If I didn’t find a woman, I can survive for quite some time.
So don’t worry about that.
I am just rethinking my choices back in college entrance exam. At that time, I have a lot of choices. But now, not too much.
I am at my 30s. In US, 30s may be a very young age and people at their 30s are called a young man.
But in China, a man at his 30s still doing bottom technical work without a position is considered a loser. So many young people there.
In US companies, they tell you “hey, we have a management line; we also have a technical line, both lines are equal and can give you a life.”
But the technical line is a lie.
Ahh, corporate politics. I’m curious to know where your idea of American corporate justice comes from OP. You say you’ve never lived abroad so I’m just wondering about the frame of reference. You seem pretty bitter about things so I’ll just offer my my perspective as a decade-long office jockey: If you choose to ‘hide’ in the same position for 12 years, odds are you’re eventually going to butt heads with someone, be it a colleague or manager. It sounds like it might be a good time to explore other opportunities within the company, and if that fails maybe look for another place to work if you think the new boss is going to be around for a while. Blaming America for your problems here is a little misguided.
Thanks, Woodwerd. About the <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>idea of American corporate justice. Two places comes it from:</span>
1. the local Chinese ones are even worse, so don’t have any hope on them even in 12 years before.
2. the American controlling of media, like movies/TVs/pop culture/everything US broadcast their lifestyle.
But when it comes to reality, it is almost the same as Chinese company even if I have a full set of evidence.
I didn’t work for one company for 12 years, I worked for 4, all the same, no one is better.
I lost my job today.
Me too mate, yesterday, but I’m kind of glad.
Have a lot of paper work to do, may not have time to write a lot.
What company? Please let us know so we can avoid their software!
I can’t say I felt a lot of loss. But the problem is, nobody come out to stand for justice. Even those Americans who advertise themselves as people who have a bottom line.
I gave up my carrier to test a fake policy.
It is not a software company. It is a storage IT (SAN, NAS, FCoE, FC) company which headquartered in a town near Boston. It is the most famous one. My professional ethics will not allow me to reveal its name.
But you can guess.
You will never use its software because it is considered a hardware company so don’t worry.
Its storage system are widely used not for personal but for industry.
I was doing the fiber channel switching stuff.
update again.
I lost my job today. Have a lot of paper work to do, may not have time to write a lot.
But it seems the Americans(Indian lady in this case) would rather to choose the dark side of China.
I believe my evidence is sufficient.
I waste 12 years time.
I can’t change the world, even can’t find a place to hide myself from ugliness. Sad.
Update.
Our company is a very famous US IT company.
Now they fire people back in US but didn’t touch here. It seems that they plan to give up and turn in their source code and help to install the back door already. If they just fire us and left. It would make me respect them, but now never.
I’m not sure I know what’s going on, but it sounds like you’ve had a bad day (week? month? year?) and for that I’m sorry. I hope things get better! I guess the lesson to be learned here is to be wary of anyone wanting to suck your ass or asks you suck theirs?
Thanks, that’s been learned more than ten years ago.
Just there is no break.
You want to live in decent ways, others don’t give you even a chance. No matter Chinese or US citizen.
I start to think that yes, all the movies, TVs in China of course are a brain washing material which makes you believe what kind of environment you are living, they are cheating. But the US are the same, there is no decent. Only things that rules are selfish and ugliness and cheating(cheat people who believes decent things).
It is so unfair to pure beings.
It makes China look like today’s condition, now US wants to join this game.
