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    Linka,

    Can you explain what this is about?

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    When i post this topic, the number is about 15,000. Now at this moment it is about 54,751. I believe when tomorrow it will be above 100,000, that was number they needed.

    Many years ago a group people try their best, so they have saved a young girl’s life. We really hope today more people give some help, so can give justice back to that young girl and her family.

    I wish i can tell this story clealy, if i didn’t you can ask any question, i will answer it if i can.

    @Charile

    If there have some grammer mistake in this post , please help me to change it. Thanks lot.

    I read this story few years ago I was shocked at that moment, recentely this story go back to internet again, people started talking about it again, we really hope the things can have a little bit change.

    Now i will tell this story

    The story go back at December of 1994.

    There have a family in Beijing, which is Zhu family , father is wu cheng zhi(吴承之)he was a engineer,mather is Zhu ming xing(朱明新。 This family have two beautiful and intelligen daughter, one is big sister Wu Jin (吴今)who went to BeiJing university, which is best university in China, younger sister Zhu Ling(朱令)who later went to Qing Hua university which also is one of the best university in China.

    One family have such two smart kids that was really blessing. All parents in China want have kids like this, smart and beautiful and with lot’s of talent.

    But one day bad fate coming, the big sister Wu Jin went to hiking with classmate one day, but not return home , few days later find out her body at the mountain, the student have two group back home, the Wu Jin suppose to stay with last group , but she change idea so she go to catch first group after they leaving. But later school find out she either in both group, the first group thought she was in last group, the last group think she was with forst group, the police said maybe she was accident fall into hill ,that’s reason of her death.

    The family have big sad, but they still have another daughter , she is zhu ling(朱令) Zhu ling was same exellent as her sister, she learn traditional Chinese music instrument at age of 15, she went to Qing Hua university later, and she have so many talent. she was main player of folk music band in universty , she was second-level swiming athlete of BeiJing city. She was very beautiful 。

    Also very good about her study, her major is Physical Chemistry. Her classmate recall later said she was so good about her major, sometimes she was later for laboratory class, but when other students almost finish it,she was rush into her desk,very beautiful finish her work in short time , like a show, you can’t stop jealousy about her, because it was like she good about everything.

    November 24th 1994, Zhu Lin was not feeling well, she can’t eat, she have stomachache. At

    December 28th her hair have fall lot. She went to hospital and stay there for one month, didn’t find out what cause her pain, but after that she feel better, and grow new hair so she insist back to school, althouth mother was a litter bit not want she do that. At 1995 February 20 winter vacation was finished , Zhu Lin was back to school At Spring 6th she feel not well again, her leg fell pain, and feel dizzy at same time. Her parents send her to hospital again.

    The doctor checked her, one doctor said Zhu lin’s symptom very much like

    poisoning. that was Thallium(铊)。But first Zhu Lin deny she have any chance touched Thallium, second the hospital didn’t have equipment to test if have Thallium in her body . At 3.15 Zhu Lin get more worse, the hospital slit her

    windpipe, change her blood for 8 times, some said is is very important for save her life at that moment when don’t know what’s reason cause her sick.But

    unfortunately during the process of change blood she have infect Hepatitis C

    because unsafe blood.

    AtSpring 26 she have send into ICU. From Spring 28th to August 31th she wake up. she have 5 month long coma.

    When Zhu Lin was in hospital hopeless lied there, her friend from highschool heard about her disease. This friend went to hospital to visit her with other high school friend, because it seems this is last time, it’s say goodbye time to her.

    Everybody feel very sad and don’t know what to say to Zhu’s parents, the two old people almost can’t keep the shape, because their daughter was dying. At that moment one boy he have remember he have heard something called internet. Maybe they can use internet and ask help from whole world , maybe that can find out what reason cause they daughter sick.

    At that time in China we don’t what it is internet. even in the the big universty the internet is rare things.The boy’s name is BeiZhiCheng(贝志成), when he mention internet to Zhu’s parents it’s just for comfort them, because he want two parents feel’s better.

    But he got a copy of the patient’s medical records from Zhu’s parents. Bei Zhi Chen said when he get out of hospital, one highschool friend catch him said, you have to try you best ! Help her!

    Bei back home , he was think the American always talking about freedom and

    democracy,so he have to put this thing with freedom and democracy together, then he maybe can get some help.

    Bei started writing a letter to world said this is a place full of freedom and democracy which is Peijing university in China, a young girl just dying here, the best doctor in China have already try best, but still can’t find out the name of disease. Then he ask a American friend to translate this letter, He send it April 10th at monday evening to two big medical science forum in the world.

    The first reply come soon, is a Irish guy said he will pray for Zhu Lin, then

    second letter coming said suspect this is about Thallium Poisoning. then more

    letter coming , some is chinese oversea students they said they was surprised that China have internet too. They will resend this letter to their professor to see if they can’t find out anything. Until next day 5 o’clock at morning, Bei have got almost 100 letter from the world. He have copy all the letter back to dormitory.

    Bei have analyze all the letter, collect information, build a data for this, then like all the Chinese . Bei go to find out relationship first to solve the problem,Bei’s mother know some people, she bring Bei to meet a retired Vice Minister of Health department. This retired Vice Minister called vice chairman of hospital .The vice chairman called the doctor from ICU coming to take all the material from

    Bei.But Bei said that doctor don’t really want take all this paper , maybe he was think Bei is a person trying to disturb a doctor by find out some relationship .And finlly they said they don’t need all this information, it was useless.Bei

    said he very depression when he walk out of hospital, he have look at that day’s gray sky said in the heart, i will beat you down.

    Then those people from the world start active, they have contact few person

    really help.,one doctor from the U.S Embassy, one doctor from hospital of

    Colorado,he was best doctor for this field of poisoning case.

    But because the China Xie He hospital said there is not possible of Thallium

    Poisoning, and those doctor from US have know China Xie He hospital is famouse hospital, so they believe it.They start think if there have other reason cause this disease.

    But when Bei send letter to world ,he have left his mother’s phone number because he said mother working for Foreign Affairs apartment , she was better about English. then a doctor from New York called few times, she keep saying that was Thallium Poisoning, that was Thallium Poisoning! When Bei’s mother tell that doctor it is not Thallium Poisoning, even it is not Heavy metal poisoning. the Doctor was so angry in the phone she was jumping, she said it is impossible that China Xie He hospital can find out this not Thallium Poisoning, because by her knowledge that China Xie He hospital even don’t have equipment to find out this!

    She ask how the China hospital find out this? then she said even without

    equipement but by patient fingernail can find out if it is Thallium Poisoning.

    About 20th, Bei tell Zhu’s father this muse need to be check,the Zhu’s father said hospital deny this is Thallium Poisoning because it is not look like it, they actually don’t have equipment to check, when Bei tell the doctor in the world

    about this news, it is mess. eveybody can’t believe China hospital can give

    diagnosis like this. More people jump out offer help, some said they can use other way to check even without the eqipment, Doctor John Aldis try to figure out how to to check in Hongkong, but China hospital refuse it , reason is patient’s medical records can’t give it out.

    At 25th, finally Zhu’s father find out a place in Beijing can do that test, then with a young doctor in the hospital who take the risk of lose job ,the father get the sample of blood and hair.that evening Bei got a call from Zhu’s father . he said yes! it is Thallium Poisoning! Already diagnose!

    After that, Bei and his friend have worked 20 hours a day for help, some trying to contact the doctor in the oversea, some go to Zhu’s university classmates ask if

    they can help translate some of English letter then give it to China hospital. But the Zhu’s classmate said they are busy because they already booked travel for next few days, it is about labor day vacation.

    American side said this need use some Dye product to heal Zhu, yes it is some Dye to make fabric change to blue colour, only need small amount can solve problem.

    The China doctor and America doctor use phone to make the Treatment plan for Zhu Lin. That was first time China have use long-distance internet treating patients, although now it is common, but at that time it was new things.

    The doctor of US said he feel guilty, because he was too believe his old friend in China Xie He hospital. it is can’t imagine without equipement the China hospital can make the diagnosis.That was terrible.

    Although find out reason, but already too late, Zhu’s brain got seriouse damagefrom the poisoning.

    At thih time hospital tell Zhu’s father must call police, because this is

    Poisoning case, but parents was busy for help kinds , they just call Security

    Section of University, ask them contact police to lock the dormitory,protect

    crimenal site.But strange thing is Security Section of University first didn’t call police, second they called roommate of Zhu, said you girls need to take care of your personal things!

    Zhu was two times get poisoning. Not just one time, because in the test show her blood have two times high peak of poisoning.especially when second time when she back to school she didn’t go anywhere only classroom and dormitory, all her food and drinking water get it from her roommate cause she was too weak to do it by herself.then when she get poisoning again, that must be somebody can really close her.

    Because Security Section of University called Zhu’s roommate already, all the evidence have been clean. And just during that Labor Day when Zhu was is the hospital, the dormitory have suspicious stolen case. the thing that missing was Zhu’s toothbrush and drinking cup.

    the thing that cause Zhu sick is called Thallium, this stuff not everybody can get it easily.In the universty only one research group in graduate student can use it. Undergraduate students can touch it too, which is help wash equipment and tools. Zhu’s roommate have one girl involve with this work.

    At April 1997 two years after place case on file for investigation and

    prosecution.Beijing police have take Suspects away, who is called Shuen wei(孙维)

    she is only one can touch Thallium and also close Zhu.Eight hours later she bring back home by her family. the police have already tell Zhu’s father already waiting for order , then will really attact Suspects.1996.2 BeiJing Police Station tell Zhu’s family, this case have some diffculty, the school tell Zhu’s family, school will help police to start a detection, but no any result later.

    Until 2006, this case not open any detail also not closed. when TV interview the police in this case, he said it is very sensitive.

    This case have been mention many times already, but never really get any substantive result.

    Only have one suspects, she was Shuen Wei, she have a renowned family background. Her grandfathr、her uncle、her father、untie、 untie’s husband.,all of them are very important person. It’s all big boss in the political.

    The school once refuse give diplomas to suspects, and refuse give paper work for she go abord, but later she have finlly got diplomas, also she have change her name already, now she called different name, she have get a marriage with foreigner, it said she have two kids and lived in the US. God bless her husband don’t make her fell upset, otherwise he need prepare a bottle a dyestuff, drink it a little bit like a wine everyday.

    What they did at WHITE HOUSE page is they want that main suspect can be send back to China, or let China president know this story, maybe can change someting, we don’t know! But we will try…

    #31234
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    I read about this story before and recently again. I don’t know why it’s an issue again now in 2013? I thought the last real news/information on this was from 2006. I don’t really support the idea of deporting someone to China because she is a _suspect_ in a 20 year old crime. The police and government may have been manipulated by money or guanxi back in the day and didn’t investigate properly or swept something under the rug, but even though she is a suspect (or ‘the’ suspect?) after all this time, it’s also kind of unfair for the US to say “Well, China authorities suspect you in a crime from 20 years ago and while they have no conclusive proof and haven’t officially charged you with the crime, we’re sending you back for investigation. Sorry to your family, friends, life, and everything you’ve built here over the years – but as a suspect you need to go back there for something you may have had nothing to do with.”

    Isn’t it?

    I’m all for justice. But I also feel that it would be an injustice to consider someone guilty and try to destroy their entire life – or take part in internet slander/destroying their life in that way, when they have not even been formally charged with a crime. That seems like an injustice so many people are taking part in, apparently over 50k.

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